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Post by Pokermind on Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:55 pm

Grik society has ull the worker bees with limited intelligence and the hij who guide them older intelligent Grik. Only the hij mate and few ull have ever seen a female. Some hij males have more than one mate, and thus families, most hij share brood mares creating common ull without families.

First General Esshk was a nest mate of the former Celestial Mother and this family connection plus his own ability helped his career.

Taylor has noted there will be a lot of ink on Grik society in the next two books. This thread is for speculations on Grik Society.

Here's one Grik society is changing as more ull live into full sentience this change will be inevitable, not to mention the fact they are currently losing the war with the alliance.
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Post by Pokermind on Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:14 pm

Re listening to series in Distant Thunders Halik was allowed access to a female as a sports fighter ull, and knew and trained his hatchlings.
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Post by Admin on Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:00 am

What we don't know is how mating is needed for griks. Is it something unimportant or a Pon-Farr?

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Post by Dilandu on Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:12 pm

Admin wrote:What we don't know is how mating is needed for griks. Is it something unimportant or a Pon-Farr?

Seems like relatively unimportant. They definitely didn't "think about sex all the time".
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Post by Pokermind on Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:33 pm

Some indication it is pheromone driven Halik smelled females prior to test thus thinking he migt mate prior to the cook pot, thus in general perhaps out of olfactory range out of mind.
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Post by Dilandu on Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:51 pm

I agree, seems that their mating instinct is completely trigger-activated.
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Post by Pokermind on Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:03 pm

In the raid on the Celestial Palace Laurence smelled the 'long hairs' and knew there were females beyond the curtain, but had no mating drive triggered suggesting the need for a mating pheromone that makes males in the mood for love. Note Halik looked back on prety sunsets not mating at first and only thought of females after smelling them. According to Taylor we will see more on Grik society and mating in upcoming books.
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Post by Pokermind on Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:02 pm

Hmm would Grik pin up posters have scratch and sniff?
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Post by Admin on Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:24 pm

mmm.... give me 5 minutes tu puke somewhere and I'll be back! Rolling Eyes

Well, that's a good question as we just don't know how much they care about that. We can imagine something exotic (such as a single mating per life).

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Post by Zor on Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:07 am

I believe that civilian grik uul live off a diet which predominately plant based. The low end disposable uul workers/livestock, the kind that get put into ship holds as living larders likely never taste a scrap of meat in their short pitiable lives. Feeding your meat meat is a loosing strategy due to thermodynamics.

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Post by Pokermind on Sun Jun 19, 2016 1:25 am

We will get more on Grik society from the next book.  In Blood in the Water we see Halik taking the regency of Persia, and does not consider himself Grik any more.  His loyalty is transferred to his army rather than First General Esshk.  Halik sees the Grik empire as doomed as more Ull obtain sentience, necessary for an effective army, and will not blindly follow the Hij leadership.  I know more about the Grik but am not allowed to blow Smile

I might mention that Hij manipulate the choosers to insure their hatchlings reach the Ull stage especially sea captains as mentioned in the books before BITW.
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Post by Dilandu on Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:01 pm

Halik sees the Grik empire as doomed as more Ull obtain sentience, necessary for an effective army, and will not blindly follow the Hij leadership. I know more about the Grik but am not allowed to blow Smile

Economically-based revolution) They need more Hij than Uul to mantain modern industry and efficient army.
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Post by Pokermind on Sun Jun 19, 2016 9:29 pm

Tomorrow is June Teenth an old African American Holiday celebrating the end of the last day of legal slavery in the United States after the passage of the Thirteenth Amendment.

Happy June Teenth!

It's appropriateness to the Destroyermen's world will be reveled on June 22 when we can post spoilers of BITW
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Post by Zor on Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:02 am

Also, two big reasons why the Grik are so technologically stagnant is that most of their population are as such...

1: Having most of the their population as semi-sapient Uul means that Grik Society has a much lower rate of innovators.
2: Because they have at their disposal a lot of Uul workers which require only food and basic housing and can be easily replaced there was little drive to develop labor saving machinery. If the Grik wanted something done more quickly they threw more Uul workers at the problem.

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Post by Dilandu on Thu Jun 23, 2016 11:15 am

Zor wrote:Also, two big reasons why the Grik are so technologically stagnant is that most of their population are as such...

1: Having most of the their population as semi-sapient Uul means that Grik Society has a much lower rate of innovators.

Yes. De-facto the Grik ACTUAL society is only the small nubmer of Hij -and thus the ACTUAL Grik society is mich smaller than Lemurian or human. Only the Hij are capable of mantaining the Empire's society, culture, science and art. And when their numbers are so limited...

2: Because they have at their disposal a lot of Uul workers which require only food and basic housing and can be easily replaced there was little drive to develop labor saving machinery. If the Grik wanted something done more quickly they threw more Uul workers at the problem.

Absolutely!
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